A SECOND LOOK AT ANAL SEX AND "AIDS"
Poisonous Semen and AIDS
By Fred Cline
13 May 1999
One of the most vexing and divisive issues in the dissident "AIDS"
movement, with the possible exception of the existence/non-existence of
"HIV," is the role of semen as the cause of disease.
In my paper Anal sex and AIDS (1), I thought, although it was short and
to the point, that I had given sufficient evidence that semen in the anus was
not peculiar to gay men and had therefore dispelled the idea of it being a
possible cause of "AIDS." It was not meant to be an exhaustive treatment of
the subject, nor was it "scientific" as I am not a scientist. It was my hope
that my detractors would pick up on the subject, pull in other references as
objective researchers, and come to the same conclusion as I.
Around last Christmas I had an inquiry from the Perth Group for this
paper as they contended that they had lost their copy. They gave me the
impression that they were going to reassess their position on the subject. A
friend of mine in London had a similar inquiry and also supplied information
to them with the same expectations.
We were, therefore, all rather surprised, to say the least, to see
Eleni Papadopulos's paper, "Looking back on the oxidative stress theory of
In this paper she makes the following statement (p. 31): "Thus, by
the time AIDS was diagnosed I was aware of the biological and pathological
effects induced by many agents (semen, nitrites, recreational drugs, Factor
VIII, infectious agents and the drugs used to eradicate them) to which the
patients belonging to the AIDS risk groups were exposed." I have no quarrel
with most of the agents mentioned, but semen is not and cannot be considered
a "pathogen." She quotes various studies correlating HIV positivity and
conditions leading to AIDS with anal and oral sex, but nowhere quotes any
studies mentioning the QUANTITY of semen in the high risk group being unique.
Therefore, in spite of her arguments, I have not been persuaded to change the
conclusion of my original paper: namely that most anal sex is heterosexual in
nature and cannot be the pricipitating agent for disease.
In making the case against gay men (the so-called high risk group for
passive anal sex) our sexual excesses are often referred to. I will not
totally deny that gay men left without any mitigating influences will not get
all the sex they can get, nor will most straight men. However, there is a
huge overlap between heterosexuals and gays in this regard. In the straight
community it is referred to as the Don Juan syndrome in males and nymphomania
in females. The desire to have huge quantities of sex are the fantasy of
every male, whether straight or gay, and the same impediments to getting laid
are there in the gay world as in the straight.
The myth of the "pig bottom" was largely originated by Michael Callen
in his now famous letter published in Jon Rappoport's AIDS Inc. Because of
its importance, I quote this passage in its entirety: "Everybody likes to
compare AIDS in America with AIDS in Africa. Here's the only link I see: A
small subset of highly promiscuous, urban gay men unwittingly managed to
recreate disease settings equivalent to those of poor third world nations and
junkies. My own case is a good example. By the age of 27, I estimate that I
had had 2,000 different sex partners. I'd also had: hepatitis A, hepatitis
B, hepatitis non-A, non-B; herpes simplex types 1 and 2, shigella; entomoeba
histolica; giardhia; syphilis; gonorrhea; non-specific urethritis; chlymidia;
venereal warts; CMV; EBV-reactions; and finally cryptosporidiosis and AIDS.
The question for me wasn't why I was sick with AIDS but rather how I had been
able to remain standing on two feet for so long. If you blanked out my name
and handed my medical chart prior to AIDS to a doctor, she/he might
reasonably have guessed that it was the chart of a 65 year old equatorial
African living in squalor. Have we forgotten how much time we spent in our
It was generally known that Michael was a bottom and this would be
indicated by the venereal warts, but what he fails to mention is the fact
that during this whole period he was using nitrite inhalants. This was
related to me by none other than John Lauritsen. Michael did not mention the
fact that he used drugs as they were ubiquitous in the gay world at that time
and so taken to be part of the scene that it was not even thought of to
mention them. Lastly, even though Michael was a bottom, bottoms do not
always get what they want. Only a portion of his so-called 2,000 encounters
were thus anal intercourse. One can be sure of this because of his own
admission to having had non-specific urethritis. Be it further known that
gay men at that time were wont to exaggerate their sexual exploits as it
conferred a higher social ranking within the gay community. This, although
lamentable, was a fact and everyone living through that era will remember it.
I suppose it still is to some extent, although I am no longer part of the
scene and not able to judge that. In addition, it is also a characteristic
of gay men to be given to hyperbole (myself included). Where this comes from
and why is the topic of another paper. Much of his above statement,
including his odious comparison with Africans, can therefore be discarded.
In almost every case where Eleni P. mentions a correlation between
"AIDS" and sex, there is also a correlation with the use of drugs. To me,
therefore, even though I believe that "AIDS" is a construct, Peter
Duesberg's drug/AIDS hypothesis is still the most comprehensive and rational
explanation for why people have become ill and continue to become ill.(4)
Another aspect of the semen in the anus theory that Eleni P. ignores
is the fact that most of the semen after anal intercourse is expelled.
Although there are about 350 million sperm released in a healthy ejaculation,
how many actually are retained and enter the blood stream? The rectum is
also, in addition to being an organ of pleasure, used as an organ of
elimination. Paul Philpott, in a highly charged debate on this subject, once
exclaimed that one ejaculation may cause no more harm than a glass of wine!
What then, is the issue and why are we talking about this subject?
In this regard I would like to quote the following: "GAY FILIPINO SEX
SLAVE SEEKS REPARATIONS. A 74-year-old gay man in Manila, the Philippines,
is seeking reparations from Japan for being kept as a sex slave during World
War II. Walter Dempster says he and five of his drag-queen friends were
kidnapped, taken to a garrison in suburban Manila, and forced to service
Japanese soldiers for several months. "We were mauled, punched, kicked,
slapped, pinched with cigarette butts, and hit with bayonets until we bled,"
Dempster told the Manila Standard newspaper. "Then we were pushed on the
table face down where a long queue of Japanese soldiers waited their turn."
Dempster is receiving assistance in his court case from a Manila city
Without having interviewed Mr. Dempster, one can come to several
conclusions: (1) Mr. Dempster was a bottom and must have had innumerable
other sexual encounters in that mode before and after his encounter with the
Japanese, and (2) when you gather men together without women they are
inclined to have intercourse with other men. Please note that Mr. Dempster
is still alive at 74 and expecting to live many more years as he is "seeking
reparations" from the Japanese.
Men have been having intercourse with other men throughout history,
even though they are not necessarily gay, especially when isolated from
women. This is well known. This has also not only been on land, but also on
the sea. A traditional limerick from the days of sailing goes as follows:
A cabin boy on an old clipper,
Grew steadily flipper and flipper.
He plugged up his ass
With fragments of glass
And thus circumcised the skipper."(6)
In modern times the sexploits of sailors are chronicled in a
marvelous book by Steven Zeeland titled Sailors and sexual identity. The
author observes: "Unvoiced is the truth that homosexual expression is a
natural possibility for men who identify themselves as heterosexual, and that
the unavailability of women is often not so much a cause of, but an excuse
for, sexual feelings for other males."(7) All of the usual forms of sexual
activity are recorded, including much maligned anal sex. It has been ever so
and will continue to be so despite President Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell, Don't Pursue" policy which has been used as a club against "gay"
sailors. This is because "all male sailors tend to be sexually
adventuresome. It is one of the many areas where a hard distinguishing line
between 'gay' and 'straight' simply does not exist."(8)
More evidence... From On the margins : "In many of the developing
countries, the age of the participants in anal sex can determine what sex
role they take, with younger men or boys usually taking the receptive role.
Such role taking is often in the context of juvenile male prostitution, but
it can also reflect strong cultural traditions of inter-generational sex
between adult men and younger men and boys. In Madras, for example: 'Older
boys, younger men and adult men have a liking for younger boys often because
of their androgynous appearance. For them these boys are socially
approachable and many indulge in sex with them. Often there are
relationships of patronage between younger and older boys and men in the role
of inserters. Not all juvenile anal sex is intergenerational. Boys and
adolescents have sex with their peers, often in the context of sexual
experimentation, and sometimes because of the sexual unavailability of girls
and young women. Among the estimated 100 million streetchildren, 'comfort
sex' between boys is common." ..." In many countries, especially among
indigenous or 'first' peoples, and in many societies in the Pacific, anal sex
between men and boys and between boys, has a sacred or ritualistic 'rites of
Please note that amongst the 100 million streetchildren that anal sex
is common. Multiply this by men and boys around the globe and the figures
are truly astronomical. This especially in view of the fact that "22% of...
men [not necessarily gay] said they had engaged in homosexual acts."(10)
From On the margins again, referring to gay encounters: "When
examined by region, the figures are interesting. In Africa, 57% of
respondents said anal sex 'quite commonly,' 'very commonly,' or 'usually'
happens. In Asia the figure was 62%; and in both Latin America and the
Caribbean, 100%. We can conclude that anal sex is a sexual behavior of major
significance for men who have sex with men in all parts of the world, and
especially in Latin America and the Caribbean, where anal sex appears to be
the rule in male-to-male sexual encounters."(11) I should also like to point
out that in Latin America there is no social stigma attached to the inserter;
it is only the receptive partner who is referred to as a "maricon," i.e.
queer. "Straight" men therefore avail themselves rather promiscuously of
In looking at these figures I am reminded of my assertion in my
previous paper that only 6% of all gay sex in the developed world is anal
sex. This can be accounted for by the intense propaganda against it in
conjunction with the "AIDS epidemic." However, the recent barebacking
rebellion (and these statistics were compiled before this phenomenon
occurred) would now produce a higher rate I am sure. In addition, I believe
these figures were skewed by the fact that gay men in the developed world
have been until recently unwilling to admit to their "unsafe" sexual
practices because it has been considered déclassé and would therefore
interfere with obtaining other sex partners. Above all, one must conform in
order to become part of the sex circuit in the gay world.
The roots of analphobia lie in a long tradition of the religious
persecution of sodomy.
How did this come about in the Western world? I think it only makes
sense in light of the Church's early battle with Paganism and Gnosticism.
For centuries the Church did everything in its power to suppress these
elements, but has been unable to eradicate them from our culture even unto
this day. During the '60s there was a resurgence of the desire to search for
direct spiritual knowledge through the use of sex and psychoactive drugs.
This is a legitimate, even though dangerous, path that has been used by man
since the beginning of time. Indeed, there are those who maintain that man's
first knowledge of the transcendent was through the use of mind-altering
plants, and the connection between shamanism and psychedelic substances is
legendary. Gay men, being naturally fey, were accepted into the
counterculture of the '60s because of the ancient pansexual traditions which
had come to the surface again at that time.
Historically the Church had to suppress the direct route to spiritual
knowledge in order to consolidate its temporal power. The early Councils of
the Church established a single route to salvation, which was through the
Church itself. The Church and its priests were made the intermediaries
between God and man and all other approaches were made heretical. Sodomy has
always been identified with these heresies. "In Gnostic cosmology.. the snake
[was] employed to 'liberate' Adam and Eve. He did this, quite simply, by
'seducing' Eve in the Garden of Eden, that is by penetrating her. But... the
serpent also 'seduced' Adam in the same way. In other words, he deflowered,
through the appropriate apertures, both the ancestors of humanity, thus
providing them with a double revelation: pleasure and knowledge. For the
Gnostics, this act evidently had the force of example and no doubt certain of
them did also practice sodomy in the name of the serpent, as a ritual
repetition of his first act, a way of opening up the 'passages' of knowledge
and thereby unsealing the blind eyes of the flesh. One can well imagine how
horrified the Christians were at this individual interpretation of Genesis
and the Gnostics' practical application of it! But it is also beyond
question that this practice of sodomy... was nothing more than one among many
techniques of erotic asceticism: normal coitus, lesbianism and no doubt
The word "bugger," which is used in Great Britain to refer to anal
sex, particularly between two men, comes from the word "Bogomil," which was a
"Gnostic-like sect, the heirs to neo-Manichaen traditions which emerged in
Bulgaria from the ninth century on."(13) They are also reported to have engaged
in sexual "abominations", as the current use of the word would imply.
Thus it is clear that authority has suppressed sodomy in conjunction
with a direct route to transpersonal experiences in order to control mankind.
These western biases have now been spread throughout the modern world and as
belief structures infuse not only scientific pursuits but also the popular
Although popular belief would have us accept that all science is
objective and bases its conclusions on empirical data alone, this is far from
the truth as can be demonstrated by the many reversals we have had in diet,
for example. At one time salt was to be eliminated from our diet because it
supposedly caused high blood pressure. Now this has been thrown out along
with many other so-called empirical conclusions. Scientists protect
themselves by inserting such qualifiers as "it seems that," or "it may" cause
this and that, but the fact is there are few assumptions in the scientific
world that are not challenged. Another example is the Big Bang theory.
Halton Arp, a noted astrophysics scientist, has been driven out of the USA
because of his opposition theory to the Big Bang theory and now resides in
the Max Planck Institute in Germany where his ideas are looked upon much more
It is my conclusion, therefore, that Eleni Papadopulos's oxidative
stress theory as applied to "AIDS" and semen is just that and nothing more.
The patterns of illness do not correlate with the practice of anal sex,
which has been performed in both sexes from time immemorial, and there are
few, if any, studies indicating that quantity of semen is a factor. In order
to prove her hypothesis she would have to document that those engaging in
anal sex in the the risk group under consideration have higher quantities of
anal sex (with numerous different partners) than those outside the study
group. Considering the widespread practice of this form of sexual activity
in all genders it is very unlikely that she will ever be able to prove this.
Be it further known that there is also a theory that semen is the
cause of cervical cancer (which she also correlates with a high frequency of
heterosexual activity) and that the University of California at San
Francisco is studying semen in the anus as a possible cause of cancer of the
To recapitulate: semen is said to cause "AIDS" in men and women who
engage in excessive anal sex, and also to cause cervical cancer in
heterosexual sex and also cancer of the rectum (also presumably in both
sexes). What on earth are we as loving, sexual human beings to do? This
leaves only masturbation and lesbian sex (or sex insulated by latex) as the
only "safe" sexual outlets for the human race (and some develop allergies to
I can't help reflect on the fact that this has all come about during
the feminist movement where men have been blamed by extreme feminists for the
patriarchy and for most of the ills of our present society. It is therefore
not surprising to me that semen should now be considered poisonous. Could all
of this speculating about poisonous semen be the result of misandry?
I should like to point out (to mention the obvious!) that all of this
pathological postulating engenders fear of sexual activity and that it is
only through love that man evolves. Eros is the gateway to Agape and Charis
[love without an object].
In the midst of all this confusion has appeared a truly revolutionary
book by Bruce Bagemihl titled Biological exuberance: animal homosexuality and
Bagemihl is a biologist who has uncovered all the hidden references
to homosexual activity in the animal world which were observed and duly
recorded by zoologists since the very beginning of their discipline, but have
been suppressed because they were either too bigoted to accept what they saw
or too afraid of the consequences if they had revealed the truth. "Bagemihl
estimates that same-sex relationships occur in from 15 to 30 percent of the 1
million species that are known to exist, even though no more than 2,000
species have begun to be adequately described by scientists." (16)
Of particular interest to the subject at hand, it is further revealed
in this book that male Orangutans mount one another with full penetration and
ejaculation and further engage in kissing and fellatio with one another.(17)
It is not too far fetched, therefore, to conclude that the widespread
exuberant sexual activity we find in human beings has been inherited from our
If we assume that Mrs. Papadopulos-Eleopulos is correct and that
semen is indeed dangerous to our health, how does she or anyone else plan to
change the whole human race who is at this very moment engaging in every
conceivable sexual activity? (N.B. We are far more inventive than the
The oxidative stress theory of disease goes back before Mrs.
Papadopulos and is the result of a reductionistic, myopic dwelling on
pathology. We have had enough of this approach to science and health. Let
us now turn our attention to the whole and encourage man to love, because the
negative approach will only continue to produce fear and we cannot function
as complete human beings while living in such a state.
Please do not misunderstand me: promiscuity does have its dangers,
but not from "HIV" or semen, only from the same old sexually transmitted
diseases. One should still exercise some caution in that regard.
I would like to close with a poem from Mutsuo Takahashi:
In the name of
and the holy fluid,
Fred Cline, San Francisco, email: Facpat@aol.com
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8. Ibid., p. xix.
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11. McKenna, op. cit. p. 74.
12. Lacarriere, Jacques. The Gnostics. New York, E. P. Dutton  p. 82.
13.Ibid., p 113. See also the word "bugger" in the Oxford English
14. Arp, Halton. Seeing red; reshifts, cosmology and academic science.
Montreal, Apeiron 
15. Bagemihl, Bruce. Biological exuberance. New York, St. Martin's Press
16. Gorner, Peter. "Exploring the variety of sexual expression among
animals..." Chicago Tribune Books. February 28, 1999.
17. Bagemihl, Bruce. op. cit., pp. 284-288.
18. Poem by Mutsuo Takahashi. Tr. by Hiroaki Sato. Pub. in A day for a lay,
ed. by Gavin Geoffrey Dillard. New York, Barricade Books, 1999. p. 123.